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Rosa Brooks, author of the 2017 Lionel Gelber Prize shortlisted book “How Everything Became War and the Military Became Everything: Tales from the Pentagon”, speaks with Robert Steiner, Director, Fellowships in Global Journalism at the Munk School of Global Affairs.